Ancient Greek thought on prosody: through time and Latin eyes
Lead Research Organisation:
University of Oxford
Department Name: Linguistics Philology and Phonetics
Abstract
Latin authors writing about the Latin word accent often sound like Greek authors writing about the Greek accent. For example, Latin authors tell us that a Latin accented syllable has a 'circumflex' if it is the next-to-last syllable in the word and has a long vowel, provided that the vowel of the last syllable is short. Exactly the same happens to be true in Greek.
Modern scholars either (i) comment that Latin grammarians 'ape' Greek grammarians on accentological matters, as if they fail to notice that Latin and Greek are different languages, or (ii) argue that Latin really had an accent remarkably similar to that of Greek, with acutes and circumflexes and remarkably Greek-like rules for their distribution.
But both views miss an important point. By the time our Latin grammarians are writing, the distinction between acute and circumflex accent is very unlikely to have been audible in Greek. Thus if we suspect the claim that certain Latin words had a circumflex of being nonsensical, it is hardly more so than the claim that certain Greek words had a circumflex in any audible sense, at least at the time when the Latin grammarians encountered this claim.
Moreover, long after the circumflex and acute accents had ceased to sound different from each other in Greek, Greek grammarians continued to make use of this distinction in their descriptions of the language. The same is true for the distinction between long and short vowels, among other concepts. Rather than being merely relics of the past, these features had acquired a different status in Greek grammatical thought. They had become abstract features--in other words technical devices that helped in the overall description of the language. For example, the concept that some vowels were theoretically long while some were theoretically short made it feasible to continue describing the possible positions for the Greek accent very succinctly (the accent may fall on any of the last three syllables, unless the last contains a 'long vowel').
In this light, when Latin grammarians take over from Greek grammarians a concept such as the distinction between acute and circumflex, they are taking the concept directly into an abstract level of their own descriptive system. For Latin the concept is of little practical use as a technical device, but its abstract nature makes it easy to take over without any consequences for actual pronunciation. Conversely, when Latin grammarians make statements about matters whose Greek counterparts would have been perfectly audible (for example the actual syllable on which the accent falls), these should be taken seriously as statements about the sound of Latin.
An example here is the Latin grammarians' doctrine that the enclitics -que, -ve, -ne and -ce cause the accent to go on the preceding syllable, regardless of the weight of that syllable. Modern scholars have frequently doubted that this can always be true, and have suspected undue influence from Greek grammarians writing about similar sequences in Greek. But statements about which syllable is accented are not interpretable as belonging only to an abstract level: they should be taken seriously as statements about the sound of Latin.
The proposed project will gather and present evidence for abstract thinking in the Greek grammatical tradition on accentuation and vowel lengths (both coming under the ancient discipline of 'Prosody'), and will develop the hypothesis that abstract features of Greek grammatical description--including some that became abstract as the language changed--were taken over into Latin grammatical thinking as abstract features.
The project aims to encourage more work on similar questions in other grammatical traditions of the world. Furthermore, it aims to enrich language teaching and learning in schools by drawing attention to historical and modern techniques for describing one language in categories imported from another, thus making a foreign language less alien.
Modern scholars either (i) comment that Latin grammarians 'ape' Greek grammarians on accentological matters, as if they fail to notice that Latin and Greek are different languages, or (ii) argue that Latin really had an accent remarkably similar to that of Greek, with acutes and circumflexes and remarkably Greek-like rules for their distribution.
But both views miss an important point. By the time our Latin grammarians are writing, the distinction between acute and circumflex accent is very unlikely to have been audible in Greek. Thus if we suspect the claim that certain Latin words had a circumflex of being nonsensical, it is hardly more so than the claim that certain Greek words had a circumflex in any audible sense, at least at the time when the Latin grammarians encountered this claim.
Moreover, long after the circumflex and acute accents had ceased to sound different from each other in Greek, Greek grammarians continued to make use of this distinction in their descriptions of the language. The same is true for the distinction between long and short vowels, among other concepts. Rather than being merely relics of the past, these features had acquired a different status in Greek grammatical thought. They had become abstract features--in other words technical devices that helped in the overall description of the language. For example, the concept that some vowels were theoretically long while some were theoretically short made it feasible to continue describing the possible positions for the Greek accent very succinctly (the accent may fall on any of the last three syllables, unless the last contains a 'long vowel').
In this light, when Latin grammarians take over from Greek grammarians a concept such as the distinction between acute and circumflex, they are taking the concept directly into an abstract level of their own descriptive system. For Latin the concept is of little practical use as a technical device, but its abstract nature makes it easy to take over without any consequences for actual pronunciation. Conversely, when Latin grammarians make statements about matters whose Greek counterparts would have been perfectly audible (for example the actual syllable on which the accent falls), these should be taken seriously as statements about the sound of Latin.
An example here is the Latin grammarians' doctrine that the enclitics -que, -ve, -ne and -ce cause the accent to go on the preceding syllable, regardless of the weight of that syllable. Modern scholars have frequently doubted that this can always be true, and have suspected undue influence from Greek grammarians writing about similar sequences in Greek. But statements about which syllable is accented are not interpretable as belonging only to an abstract level: they should be taken seriously as statements about the sound of Latin.
The proposed project will gather and present evidence for abstract thinking in the Greek grammatical tradition on accentuation and vowel lengths (both coming under the ancient discipline of 'Prosody'), and will develop the hypothesis that abstract features of Greek grammatical description--including some that became abstract as the language changed--were taken over into Latin grammatical thinking as abstract features.
The project aims to encourage more work on similar questions in other grammatical traditions of the world. Furthermore, it aims to enrich language teaching and learning in schools by drawing attention to historical and modern techniques for describing one language in categories imported from another, thus making a foreign language less alien.
Planned Impact
I am often asked how we know how ancient languages were pronounced. The question interests a very broad range of people, including those learning an ancient language (who want to know, in addition, how the specific language they are learning was actually pronounced) and many who simply find the question intrinsically interesting. Related topics that capture the imagination include how languages have been taught over the centuries, and how the teaching of one language can affect the teaching of another. Famously, the teaching of Latin grammar has influenced the teaching of English, and indeed English usage itself, on many points including the idea that split infinitives are inelegant and the idea that sentences should not end with a preposition. These are the contexts in which I envisage the research appealing widely outside academia.
In particular, the research will interest the following groups outside academia:
(1) School teachers and pupils interested in the pronunciation of ancient Greek and Latin, and in how we know about these things. In order to reach this audience I plan to offer an article to Omnibus, the magazine for students of the Classical world published by the Joint Association of Classical Teachers (JACT), and a seminar at the JACT Greek Summer School in Dorset.
(2) Teachers and pupils at schools that do not necessarily teach Latin or ancient Greek, or have recently begun to do so (often with the help of Classics for All: http://www.classicsforall.org.uk). The National Curriculum now includes a compulsory ancient or modern language component at primary school level, and the DfE Key Stage Four Latin Initiative is prompting secondary school teachers of modern languages to take up the teaching of Latin. We are therefore at a point when enrichment activity stands to make a real difference to the success of new language teaching and learning initiatives at schools, and to teachers taking up a new language in order to make it available to the next generation. I would therefore like to expand my outreach activities by actively offering enrichment talks to teachers and pupils at schools that would particularly benefit, on topics connected to the teaching of languages over the centuries, and how the teaching of one language can interact with the teaching of another. When one language is described in terms of categories borrowed from another, as when early modern grammars of English give English a Latin-style system of grammatical genders and cases, the result is often dismissed as artificial nonsense; yet such descriptions can serve a useful purpose in making a foreign language (in this case Latin) less alien. More generally, by drawing attention to historical and modern language teaching and learning techniques (regardless of whether we like or adopt them) I hope to enrich the intrinsic interest of language teaching and learning itself. As part of these events I would include structured discussion to encourage teachers and pupils to reflect explicitly on their own strategies for language teaching and learning.
(3) Members of the general public. I frequently talk to groups of interested members of the public, and plan to continue these activities. Possible topics connected to the project again include language teaching and learning through the centuries, the influence of one tradition on another, and a talk in praise of the traditional grammarian. Traditional grammarians tend to receive a bad press as pedants out of touch with everyday language use, and this often prevents us giving them a second thought. Yet when we really understand them in the context of their own times and experiences of language, they do not always turn out to be so out of touch, and they can teach us a tremendous amount about their languages.
In particular, the research will interest the following groups outside academia:
(1) School teachers and pupils interested in the pronunciation of ancient Greek and Latin, and in how we know about these things. In order to reach this audience I plan to offer an article to Omnibus, the magazine for students of the Classical world published by the Joint Association of Classical Teachers (JACT), and a seminar at the JACT Greek Summer School in Dorset.
(2) Teachers and pupils at schools that do not necessarily teach Latin or ancient Greek, or have recently begun to do so (often with the help of Classics for All: http://www.classicsforall.org.uk). The National Curriculum now includes a compulsory ancient or modern language component at primary school level, and the DfE Key Stage Four Latin Initiative is prompting secondary school teachers of modern languages to take up the teaching of Latin. We are therefore at a point when enrichment activity stands to make a real difference to the success of new language teaching and learning initiatives at schools, and to teachers taking up a new language in order to make it available to the next generation. I would therefore like to expand my outreach activities by actively offering enrichment talks to teachers and pupils at schools that would particularly benefit, on topics connected to the teaching of languages over the centuries, and how the teaching of one language can interact with the teaching of another. When one language is described in terms of categories borrowed from another, as when early modern grammars of English give English a Latin-style system of grammatical genders and cases, the result is often dismissed as artificial nonsense; yet such descriptions can serve a useful purpose in making a foreign language (in this case Latin) less alien. More generally, by drawing attention to historical and modern language teaching and learning techniques (regardless of whether we like or adopt them) I hope to enrich the intrinsic interest of language teaching and learning itself. As part of these events I would include structured discussion to encourage teachers and pupils to reflect explicitly on their own strategies for language teaching and learning.
(3) Members of the general public. I frequently talk to groups of interested members of the public, and plan to continue these activities. Possible topics connected to the project again include language teaching and learning through the centuries, the influence of one tradition on another, and a talk in praise of the traditional grammarian. Traditional grammarians tend to receive a bad press as pedants out of touch with everyday language use, and this often prevents us giving them a second thought. Yet when we really understand them in the context of their own times and experiences of language, they do not always turn out to be so out of touch, and they can teach us a tremendous amount about their languages.
People |
ORCID iD |
Philomen Probert (Principal Investigator / Fellow) |
Publications
Corral Esteban A
(2017)
The Importance of Accuracy in the Use of Grammatical Terms and Concepts in the Description of the Distinctive Properties of Plains Algonquian Languages
in Journal of Language and Education
Gwosdek H
(2019)
The study of elementary Latin grammar and the category 'case' in the English grammatical manuscripts and printed grammars from c.1400-1542
in Beiträge zur Geschichte der Sprachwissenschaft
Probert P
(2019)
The Invention of the Greek Prosodic Signs
in The Journal of Hellenic Studies
Probert P
(2018)
Sources of silliness in grammar
in Plans and prospects (the alumni magazine of Wolfson College, Oxford)
Russell P
(2020)
Distinctions, foundations and steps: the metaphors of the grades of comparison in medieval Latin, Irish and Welsh grammatical texts
in Language & History
Westin Tikkanen K
(2018)
Chrysoloras' Erotemata, and the evolution of grammatical descriptions
in Beiträge zur Geschichte der Sprachwissenschaft
Description | --From a modern perspective, the position of the stress in a classical Latin word is governed by a very simple rule--one that can be taught in about three minutes. Latin grammarians give us a much more complicated picture, much of it suspiciously reminiscent of points made by ancient Greek grammarians writing about the ancient Greek accent. Modern scholarship is divided as to whether to take the Latin grammarians seriously here or not. The main finding is that both sides of this debate are partly right: the Latin grammarians meant what they said seriously as a description of Latin, but this does not mean that every point can be taken at face value as a statement about the sound of Latin. Owing to the history of the tradition, ancient descriptions were sometimes fantastically complicated (and more so than - from our perspective - they needed to be). --Among other things, the research has also yielded a new understanding of the ancient thinking behind claims that the Latin accent (like the Greek one) was sometimes an acute and sometimes a circumflex. |
Exploitation Route | As modern scholars, we would like to be able to use the works of ancient Latin grammarians to inform our own understanding of the Latin language -- especially when it comes to matters of accent and rhythm, for which we can glean only incomplete evidence from other sources. The research arising from this award addresses our interpretation of the Latin grammarians, with a view to being usable by those exploiting grammatical texts as evidence for the linguistic phenomena themselves. |
Sectors | Education Culture Heritage Museums and Collections |
URL | https://global.oup.com/academic/product/latin-grammarians-on-the-latin-accent-9780198841609 |
Description | The main non-academic impact of the research so far is the enthusiastic take-up of advertised talks based on the research, by schools and other groups. A little before the start of the AHRC award, an invitation to give a plenary lecture at the JACT Greek Summer School gave me the opportunity to reach an audience of 200-300 school pupils and teachers with a talk linked to the AHRC project: 'Shall Greek be pronounced by accent or by quantity?: Debating Greek pronunciation since the Renaissance'. Since the start of the award, I have given a further talk on Greek pronunciation since the Renaissance to an audience consisting of members of the general public plus school pupils and teachers; talks on 'Language learning across languages, cultures and time' at five schools and at a Teaching and Learning Conference run by OCR; talks on "Why languages are similar" at two further schools; a talk on "Sources of silliness in grammar: from ancient Greece to modern Europe" to a general audience at the House of Lords (together with a related article in the alumni magazine of Wolfson College, Oxford); and a talk on "Latin grammarians and the Latin accent: were they crazy?" to to an audience consisting of members of the general public plus school pupils and teachers. As planned, I have also given a talk on how we know how ancient languages were pronounced, at a retirement community in the US. I have also participated in further engagement activities linked more broadly to my interests in ancient education and in the history of the Greek language. Several of the talks and other activities have generated further enthusiasm for similar or related activities in the future. The major academic output of the research is the book 'Latin grammarians on the Latin accent: the tranformation of Greek grammatical thought' (OUP 2019). Thanks to a generous invitation to spend the spring semester of 2019 at the University of Leiden, as a Spinoza Visiting Scholar in the Classics Department, I was able to give a semester-long master's-level course on "Greeks on the history of their language". This class was linked to the research arising from this award, and thus enabled this research to benefit students in a teaching setting, as well as providing a setting in which to explore what I consider to be the next questions beyond the research arising from this award. In 2021 I gave the Gray Lectures at the University of Cambridge (in a live-streamed format, because of the pandemic); the research that underpins these lectures stems in part from this award. |
First Year Of Impact | 2016 |
Sector | Education |
Impact Types | Cultural Societal |
Description | AG Leventis Foundation research grant scheme (application by Dr Stephanie Roussou and me) |
Amount | £3,000 (GBP) |
Organisation | AG Leventis Foundation |
Sector | Charity/Non Profit |
Country | Cyprus |
Start | 03/2017 |
End | 09/2017 |
Description | John Fell OUP Research Fund (Humanities Small Award Scheme) |
Amount | £7,500 (GBP) |
Funding ID | 153/054 |
Organisation | University of Oxford |
Department | John Fell Fund |
Sector | Academic/University |
Country | United Kingdom |
Start | 01/2017 |
End | 05/2017 |
Description | Lorne Thyssen Research Fund for Ancient World Topics (research grant scheme) |
Amount | £10,146 (GBP) |
Organisation | University of Oxford |
Department | Lorne Thyssen Research Fund for Ancient World Topics |
Sector | Academic/University |
Country | United Kingdom |
Start | 01/2017 |
End | 05/2017 |
Description | "Between uneducated and educated, or hot and cold, or bitter and sweet...there's a middle point": Varro and the mysterious middle accent |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | National |
Primary Audience | Postgraduate students |
Results and Impact | To our knowledge, the first author to write about the Latin accent in any detail was Varro. Varro's discussion of accents does not survive, but a late antique work that goes under the name "Pseudo-Sergius" tells us that Varro took over from the Greek grammarian Tyrannio a system of four accents: acute, grave, circumflex, and middle. Surviving discussions of the Greek accent almost invariably work with the acute, grave, and circumflex, and these three accents became standard features of ancient descriptions of the Latin accent too. The middle accent did not survive as a mainstream doctrine for either Greek or Latin. For this reason, our evidence for the doctrine is very slight: what was actually meant by the middle accent? This talk took a new look at the evidence and at the solutions that have been proposed. The talk generated discussion and useful feedback. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2019 |
URL | https://hi-in.facebook.com/UoMCAHAE/posts/1731529856978622 |
Description | 16th Spring Workshop on Theory and Method in Linguistic Reconstruction (Michigan) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | International |
Primary Audience | Other audiences |
Results and Impact | This talk was entitled 'Why ancient theory and method are worth understanding: recovering Latin prosody from grammatical texts'. The talk generated discussion and feedback which was very valuable to me. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
Description | Academic talk (Cambridge) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Local |
Primary Audience | Other audiences |
Results and Impact | About 40 members of the Faculty of Classics (postgraduate students and senior members) attended a talk entitled 'Quintilian's Schooldays and the Latin Accent'. This communicated some of the scholarly findings of the AHRC-funded research project. The talk sparked questions and discussion afterwards, including points which have fed into the monograph which has now been published as a result of this project. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2015 |
Description | Ancient schoolroom activity, Berkshire (participation as a mathematics teacher) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | Participation in an activity, workshop or similar |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Local |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | This was an extension of the Reading Ancient Schoolroom run by Prof. Eleanor Dickey and the University of Reading's Department of Classics (see my earlier report on my participation in this event). On this occasion a mobile version of the schoolroom was transported to Reddam House School in Berkshire. Participants consisted of 90 pupils from the school, aged between 5 and 12. These were divided into three age groups, each of which spent an hour having a Roman maths lesson with me. Participation was lively and feedback was enthusiastic, especially from the oldest and the youngest group. For the middle group I didn't pitch the level quite right. The experience has helped me to work out strategies for gauging the right level more quickly. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
Description | Antieke perspectieven op klinkerlengte |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | International |
Primary Audience | Postgraduate students |
Results and Impact | This was a talk to the research seminar of the Classics Department at the University of Leiden. It generated discussion and useful feedback. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2019 |
Description | Festival of Lost Cities, Oxford (participation in the Knossos room) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | Participation in an activity, workshop or similar |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Regional |
Primary Audience | Public/other audiences |
Results and Impact | I participated in the Festival of Lost Cities run by Dr Lorna Robinson under the aegis of the East Oxford Community Classics Centre. This was a community event which attracted several hundred people from across the region, both school groups and members of the general public. My contribution was to run a Linear B tablet-making workshop in the Knossos room, together with Prof. Eleanor Dickey. The whole event generated tremendous enthusiasm as well as positive feedback and press coverage. Some 100 participants made Linear B tablets, from pressing wet clay out on a flat surface to inscribing their names in Linear B script and letting the clay dry. Participants were able to take their Linear B tablets home once the clay was dry enough to make the tablets transportable. The activity generated many questions and discussion about Mycenaean culture and record keeping, the events leading to the end of the palace culture, and the script itself. (Participation in this activity connects to my broader interests in the history of the Greek language rather than the specific research focus of my current AHRC-funded project. As part of the AHRC-funded project I am committed to continuing my existing range of outreach activities in addition to developing new ones that link to the current research project.) |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
URL | http://www.eoccc.org.uk/festival-of-lost-cities |
Description | Gray Lectures, University of Cambridge 2021 |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | International |
Primary Audience | Postgraduate students |
Results and Impact | Two lectures and a seminar, live streamed and reaching an international audience. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2021 |
URL | https://www.classics.cam.ac.uk/news/did-the-ancient-greeks-and-romans-do-historical-linguistics |
Description | Henry Sweet Society Colloquium (Cambridge) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | International |
Primary Audience | Postgraduate students |
Results and Impact | The talk was entitled "Ancient Greek Thought on Accents: Its Impact on the Latin Grammatical Tradition". It reported on an aspect of the scholarly work I have undertaken for this project, and reached an audience of specialists in the History of Linguistics. Their feedback was very valuable to me, not least because I am a relative newcomer to this field. I also chaired a session at this conference. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
URL | http://www.henrysweet.org/wp-content/uploads/Preliminary-Programme_.pdf |
Description | Iris Festival of Ancient and Modern Science (participated by running a Roman mathematics activity) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | Participation in an activity, workshop or similar |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Regional |
Primary Audience | Public/other audiences |
Results and Impact | The Iris Festival of Ancient and Modern Science was a large community outreach event run by Dr Lorna Robinson at the Iris Classics Centre hosted by Cheney School. There were about 700 visitors, comprising school groups and members of the public from across south east England. I ran a Roman mathematics activity with three other teachers, two of whom I trained and one of whom (a sixth-former from the school) was in turn trained by the other members of the team. The activity ran for almost three hours and reached up to 100 people. The activity generated interest and positive feedback. Dr Robinson reported afterwards that "Didcot Girls School emailed me to say that your stall had been their favourite!" (My participation in this event was linked broadly to my interests in ancient education.) |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2017 |
URL | http://www.eoccc.org.uk/blog/iris-festival-of-ancient-and-modern-science |
Description | Lecture (JACT Greek Summer School 2015) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | National |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | The lecture was entitled '"Shall Greek be pronounced by accent or by quantity?" Debating Greek pronunciation since the Renaissance'. It engaged an audience of 200-300 pupils and teachers on the JACT Greek Summer School in 2015. This event took place before the AHRC award began, but I had been notified of the award, and the talk pre-emptively addressed a theme linked to the scholarly activities of the AHRC-funded project. In the application I'd promised a seminar at the following year's summer school, but the invitation to give a plenary lecture in 2015 made it possible to engage a larger audience on a period of fierce debate in the long-term history of the grammatical tradition on ancient Greek. The talk generated questions and discussion, and some requests for further information. (As reported separately I also gave a seminar at the 2016 summer school, on a topic more broadly related to the history of Greek.) |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2015 |
URL | http://www.greeksummerschool.org/reports/2015-report/ |
Description | OCR GCSE and A Level Classics Teaching and Learning Conference: Classics in the classroom |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | National |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | A talk entitled 'Language learning across languages', to about 35 school teachers attending this conference held in Oxford on 28 June 2016. My two handouts were made available also to the teachers at the other parallel session (about 35 more people) and the talk was live tweeted. One of the handouts is a worksheet with practical exercises that teachers might like to try out with pupils. I offered to send this to teachers in electronic form if they so requested, so that they could adapt it as appropriate for their pupils; one teacher took up this offer. There was very good discussion and feedback on the day, |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
URL | http://www.theclassicslibrary.com/ocr-gcsea-level-classics-teaching-and-learning-conference-classics... |
Description | Reading Ancient Schoolroom (participation as mathematics teacher) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | Participation in an activity, workshop or similar |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Regional |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | The Reading Ancient Schoolroom is an activity run by Prof. Eleanor Dickey and the University of Reading's Department of Classics; participants experience a reconstructed schoolroom set in the Roman Empire of the fourth century CE. The activity ran for the first time in 2014 as part of the AHRC's Being Human Festival; in 2016 it returned as a stand-alone event, expanded from one to two days. In 2016 there were just over 100 participants, comprising groups from Farnborough Hill School, Leweston School, St Gabriel's School, and Langley Academy, as well as numerous families and individuals. My role was to be a Roman mathematics teacher. My participation was thus linked broadly to my interests in ancient education. It has given me a chance to complement my interests in grammatical instruction by developing some knowledge of basic Roman instruction in mathematics, and some facility in using a Roman counting board and abacus and in teaching these skills. This event attracted media interest, and footage was broadcast twice on BBC 1 South as well as on national television (BBC Breakfast). |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
URL | http://readingancientschoolroom.com/ |
Description | Retirement community visit (New Hampshire, USA) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Local |
Primary Audience | Public/other audiences |
Results and Impact | A talk entitled "'A Scenic PlaceCalled Worcester (pronounced Wooster)': Can We Know How Ancient Languages Were Pronounced?", to about 70 residents of RiverWoods Retirement Community in New Hampshire, USA. The poster advertising the talk already sparked a lively debate about the pronunciation of the place name "Worcester" (with particular reference to the place of this name in Massachusetts). The talk itself sparked a lively question and discussion period, and enthusiastic feedback. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
URL | http://www.riverwoodsrc.org/content/evening-learning-something-new-about-something-old |
Description | School talk (Buckinghamshire) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Local |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | The talk was entitled 'Why are languages similar to each other?'; it reached all the language students at the school in Year 12 (about 30 pupils), as well as some teachers and a few more pupils from this school and another local school. The talk generated questions and discussion, and positive feedback. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2017 |
Description | School talk (Dorset) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Local |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | A talk on language learning across languages, cultures and time. The audience consisted of about 60 pupils from Year 10 and above, and their teachers, from Leweston School and local schools in Sherborne. The talk sparked a lively question and discussion period, and interest in similar events in future. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
URL | http://www.leweston.co.uk/index/news/dr-philomen-probert.html?colour=junior |
Description | School talk (Islington) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Local |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | A talk on language learning across languages, cultures and time, to about 45 year 12 pupils doing languages at St Mary Magdalene Academy in Islington. The talk generated interest and useful feedback for me. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
URL | http://www.theclassicslibrary.com/ancient-to-modern-languages-across-time-school-talks-by-dr-philome... |
Description | School talk (Mill Hill, London) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Local |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | A talk on language learning across languages, cultures and time, to about 60 year 11 pupils doing languages at Mill Hill County High School in London. The talk generated interest and useful feedback for me. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
URL | http://www.theclassicslibrary.com/ancient-to-modern-languages-across-time-school-talks-by-dr-philome... |
Description | School talk (Somerset) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Local |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | A talk on language learning across languages, cultures and time. The audience consisted of about 25 pupils from Year 10 and above, and their teachers, from Huish Episcopi Academy. The talk sparked a lively question and discussion period, and good feedback. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
Description | School talk (Somerset) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Local |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | A talk on language learning across languages, cultures and time. The audience consisted of about 50 pupils from Year 11 and above, and their teachers, from Wellington School. The talk sparked a lively question and discussion period, and good feedback. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
Description | School talk - Why languages are similar |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | National |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | Some 15 pupils and teachers attended for a talk on "Why languages are similar", at King's School, Canterbury (12 March 2018). The talk generated discussion, questions, and requests for further information. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2018 |
Description | School talk - language learning across languages, cultures and time |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Local |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | The school hosted this talk as part of a programme of events for the European Day of Languages. Some 30 pupils, parents, and members of the public attended; the talk sparked questions and discussion, and some requests for further information. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2018 |
URL | https://www.theclassicslibrary.com/oxford-outreach-lecture-language-learning-across-language-culture... |
Description | School talks (Oxford) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Local |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | I gave two talks on the same day (21 September 2016), to different groups of pupils at Cheney School in Oxford: a group of 23 pupils in Year 8 (aged 12-13), and 18 pupils in Year 12 (aged 16-17). Both talks were interactive introductions to Linear B, and both groups had been given a taster session by their teacher the previous week. The talk to the younger group in particular generated very impressive questions and discussion. (These talks connect to my broader interests in the history of the Greek language rather than the specific research focus of my current AHRC-funded project. As part of the AHRC-funded project I am committed to continuing my existing range of outreach activities in addition to developing new ones that link to the current research project.) |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
Description | Seminar (JACT Greek Summer School 2016) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | Participation in an activity, workshop or similar |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | National |
Primary Audience | Schools |
Results and Impact | This seminar was an interactive workshop on the history of the Greek third declension. It reached some 70 pupils and teachers on the JACT Greek Summer School. (This activity connects to my broader interests in the history of the Greek language rather than the specific research focus of my current AHRC-funded project, although I began briefly with ancient approaches to the third declension. As part of the AHRC-funded project I am committed to continuing my existing range of outreach activities in addition to developing new ones that link to the current research project. As reported separately, I was invited to give a plenary lecture at the 2015 summer school, and took this opportunity to reach a larger audience with a topic linked to the AHRC-funded project.) |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
URL | http://www.greeksummerschool.org/reports/2016-report/ |
Description | Society for Classical Studies Conference (California) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | International |
Primary Audience | Other audiences |
Results and Impact | The talk was entitled 'Accenting Sequences of Enclitics in Ancient Greek: Rediscovering an Ancient Rule'. It reported on work in progress with Dr Stephanie Roussou. This work brings evidence from ancient Greek grammatical texts and medieval manuscripts together from a new angle, and shows that there is remarkably strong support for a previously undescribed rule for accenting sequences of ancient Greek enclitics. About 35 people attended and the talk sparked questions and discussion, including points which will be beneficial when we write the work up. (This publication will not itself be part of my current AHRC-funded project, but the work arises from a chance discovery due to discussion with Dr Roussou of this project and her current project. We now have in mind a succinct book on ancient Greek thought on enclitics, for a future date.) (The abstract in the URL given below gives a now superseded impression of the research, but I include it as evidence of the talk.) |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |
URL | https://classicalstudies.org/annual-meeting/147/abstract/accenting-sequences-enclitics-ancient-greek... |
Description | Society for Classical Studies Conference (Toronto) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | International |
Primary Audience | Other audiences |
Results and Impact | The talk was entitled 'The invention of the Greek accent marks'. Aristophanes of Byzantium is credited with inventing the signs for Greek accents, breathings, and vowel lengths, according to a single source: a section or excerpt found in two sixteenth-century Paris manuscripts. This text has a doubtful history, but there has been much scholarly interest in the story it tells. This talk argued that the author of the text drew on a source that was in Latin, and whose subject was the Latin accent. (As reported separately, this work has now been written up as part of a joint article with Stephanie Roussou.) |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2017 |
URL | https://classicalstudies.org/annual-meeting/148/abstract/invention-greek-accent-markshttps://classic... |
Description | Talk on Sources of Silliness in grammar |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Regional |
Primary Audience | Public/other audiences |
Results and Impact | A talk entitled "Sources of Silliness in Grammar: from ancient Greece to modern Europe", given at the House of Lords to a general audience of about 120 alumni and friends of Wolfson College (Oxford). The talk generated good discussion and some participation in further events. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2018 |
URL | http://oxfordcogitate.blogspot.co.uk/2018/03/a-visit-to-house-of-lords.html |
Description | Talk to a general audience - Ancient World Breakfast Club |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Regional |
Primary Audience | Public/other audiences |
Results and Impact | About 70 people attended for a talk on "Latin grammarians on the Latin accent: were they crazy?", at the Ancient World Breakfast Club at Godolphin and Latymer School. The audience consisted of interested members of the public from across London, as well as some pupils from the school. The talk generated positive feedback and a request for further reading. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2018 |
Description | Talk to the Ancient World Breakfast Club (London) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | Regional |
Primary Audience | Public/other audiences |
Results and Impact | The talk was hosted by the Ancient World Breakfast Club at Godolphin and Latymer School, and was entitled 'Ancient Greek pronunciation from the Renaissance to now'. It engaged an audience of over 60 interested members of the general public from across London, as well as pupils and staff from the school itself. The talk addressed a fiery period in the long-term history of the grammatical tradition on ancient Greek and sparked questions and discussion; the co-ordinator reported very good feedback, and that he subsequently made use of the talk in a lesson for year 9 pupils. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2015 |
Description | Working group on long-term histories of grammatical traditions |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A formal working group, expert panel or dialogue |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | International |
Primary Audience | Other audiences |
Results and Impact | A working group on the long-term histories of grammatical traditions is being funded as part of this grant. This workshop has ten members (including myself), based in the UK, Germany, Sweden, Greece, Italy, Spain, and the USA. Three further people (based in the UK and in Armenia) have participated informally in some of the group's discussions. After extensive on-line discussion, the group met in September 2016 for a workshop which I led (see the separate report on this workshop, which has been the main formal output of the working group so far). Since the workshop, I have led work on a collaborative article which is now close to completion, and have given feedback to group members as they write up their individual contributions. I was also able to give feedback to one group member on grant applications to support further work of his, and I understand that one of these has been successful. On the initiative of one member of the group (Chad Howe), most members of the group are sharing bibliography via a Zotero group. Looking beyond the outputs that will arise from our AHRC-funded work, several members of the group are keen to collaborate on an exhibition in the future. I would like to make this possible, but will need to seek further funding for this purpose. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016,2017 |
Description | Workshop on ancient grammar (Cologne) |
Form Of Engagement Activity | A talk or presentation |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | International |
Primary Audience | Other audiences |
Results and Impact | The conference was an international workshop on ancient Grammar at the University of Cologne, organised by Dr Stephanie Roussou and Prof. René Nünlist. I gave a talk entitled "e? p?? t?? s? µ?? f?s?? p?te? Accenting sequences of enclitics in ancient Greek", to an audience of specialists in ancient Greek and Roman grammatical thought. This talk reported on insights which have emerged as a by-product of this project and of work by Dr Stephanie Roussou, and which will form part of a new joint book project. |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2017 |
Description | Workshop on long-term histories of grammatical traditions |
Form Of Engagement Activity | Participation in an activity, workshop or similar |
Part Of Official Scheme? | No |
Geographic Reach | International |
Primary Audience | Other audiences |
Results and Impact | This workshop is the first formal output of the working group on the long-term histories of grammatical traditions, funded as part of this project. The workshop took place on 17 September 2016, at Wolfson College, Oxford. Twelve people attended altogether: all ten formal members of the working group, and two people who have been engaging informally with the working group. The ten formal members of the working group each gave a presentation, as follows: Philomen Probert: "Comment les mots grammaticaux changent-ils de sens? Circumflex accents in ancient Greek and Latin grammatical texts". Paul Russell: "Distinctions and foundations: the degrees of comparison in medieval Irish and Welsh grammatical texts" Andrea Drocco: "Reconstructing the passive interpretation of Indo-Aryan ergative structures: a look at the Hindi grammatical tradition" Thomas Godard: "From le génie de la langue to the genius of the language: the case of Joseph Priestley (1733-1804)" Chad Howe: "Beyond prescription in Quechua grammars" Avelino Corral: "The importance of the accuracy in the use of terms and concepts of grammatical description for Universal Grammar" Karin Westin Tikkanen: "Nominal categories in Greek grammatical theory from Dionysius Thrax to Manuel Chrysoloras" Rea Delveroudi: "The impact of the Greek grammatical tradition on some early Modern Greek grammars" Hedwig Gwosdek: "'Case' in the English grammatical manuscripts and printed grammars before William Bullokar's Pamphlet for Grammar (1586)" John Walmsley: "Case in English - Episode 7" The presentations fed into detailed discussion of common themes arising, and detailed planning of the next steps in the group's work (see the separate report on the working group itself). |
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity | 2016 |