Our Futures in Mind Uploading: Public Perceptions and Narratives

Lead Research Organisation: University of Nottingham
Department Name: Faculty of Engineering

Abstract

While advances in neurotechnology, especially when partnered with Artificial Intelligence (AI), are widely researched, understanding of public response is limited. My programme of research with the public contributes to our understanding of the complexities of developing these technologies and explores public awareness, understanding and reaction to one particular advanced neurotechnology - the possibility of uploading human minds. My methods included a longitudinal qualitative study - which used memory as an enabler for mind and mind uploading - as well as a novel and under-researched methodology - a website which tells the stories of two fictional characters who have uploaded their minds. The website enabled participants to fully engage with and consider the key concepts and was shown to be a valid method of encouraging narrative engagement and transportation.

Participants demonstrated the ability of humans to mentally time travel and the storytelling website allowed participants to experience and explore key themes of mind uploading including ethical considerations and subjective experience. While awareness of mind uploading has remained relatively static over the last few years, favourability towards the concept has significantly increased and this was reflected in an increasing number of people who would upload if their physical body was dying. This body of research contributes to our understanding of public perceptions of mind uploading and contributes a novel method by using digital narratives to research public opinions.

Planned Impact

We will collaborate with over 40 partners drawn from across FMCG and Food; Creative Industries; Health and Wellbeing; Smart Mobility; Finance; Enabling technologies; and Policy, Law and Society. These will benefit from engagement with our CDT through the following established mechanisms:

- Training multi-disciplinary leaders. Our partners will benefit from being able to recruit highly skilled individuals who are able to work across technologies, methods and sectors and in multi-disciplinary teams. We will deliver at least 65 skilled PhD graduates into the Digital Economy.

- Internships. Each Horizon student undertakes at least one industry internship or exchange at an external partner. These internships have a benefit to the student in developing their appreciation of the relevance of their PhD to the external societal and industrial context, and have a benefit to the external partner through engagement with our students and their multidisciplinary skill sets combined with an ability to help innovate new ideas and approaches with minimal long-term risk. Internships are a compulsory part of our programme, taking place in the summer of the first year. We will deliver at least 65 internships with partners.

- Industry-led challenge projects. Each student participates in an industry-led group project in their second year. Our partners benefit from being able to commission focused research projects to help them answer a challenge that they could not normally fund from their core resources. We will deliver at least 15 such projects (3 a year) throughout the lifetime of the CDT.

- Industry-relevant PhD projects. Each student delivers a PhD thesis project in collaboration with at least one external partner who benefits from being able to engage in longer-term and deeper research that they would not normally be able to undertake, especially for those who do not have their own dedicated R&D labs. We will deliver at least 65 such PhDs over the lifetime of this CDT renewal.

- Public engagement. All students receive training in public engagement and learn to communicate their findings through press releases, media coverage.

This proposal introduces two new impact channels in order to further the impact of our students' work and help widen our network of partners.

- The Horizon Impact Fund. Final year students can apply for support to undertake short impact projects. This benefits industry partners, public and third sector partners, academic partners and the wider public benefit from targeted activities that deepen the impact of individual students' PhD work. This will support activities such as developing plans for spin-outs and commercialization; establishing an IP position; preparing and documenting open-source software or datasets; and developing tourable public experiences.

- ORBIT as an impact partner for RRI. Students will embed findings and methods for Responsible Research Innovation into the national training programme that is delivered by ORBIT, the Observatory for Responsible Research and Innovation in ICT (www.orbit-rri.org). Through our direct partnership with ORBIT all Horizon CDT students will be encouraged to write up their experience of RRI as contributions to ORBIT so as to ensure that their PhD research will not only gain visibility but also inform future RRI training and education. PhD projects that are predominantly in the area of RRI are expected to contribute to new training modules, online tools or other ORBIT services.

Publications

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Studentship Projects

Project Reference Relationship Related To Start End Student Name
EP/S023305/1 30/09/2019 30/03/2028
2279195 Studentship EP/S023305/1 30/09/2019 14/11/2023 Angela Thornton
 
Title Public Impressions of Mind Uploading 
Description Electronic score 
Type Of Art Composition/Score 
Year Produced 2023 
Impact Interest and questions following the performance on the topic. 
 
Description Three studies have been conducted to date. In each case the aims were met, and key insights have shaped my on-going research with the public including a Longitudinal Qualitative Panel.

1: Pilot - a short online survey with the public. Participants were aged 18 years or above with a sample of 82. The objective was to explore an under-researched area, namely public perceptions of mind uploading and related topics. Key findings were that uploading was an unfamiliar concept although a significant minority claimed to be aware of it via science fiction. The concept elicited mainly unfavourable responses and raised concerns about data privacy and protection - the mind being the ultimate data set. Additional ethical questions related to Neurorights, access and fears of abuse or exploitation. As a result, only a small proportion would potentially upload their mind if their physical body was dying. Immortality or life extension were key themes attracting both positive and negative responses. Perceived benefits were a legacy for loved ones or the opportunity to continue to develop oneself. However there were reservations about the prospect of an individual living for ever and concerns about the impact on humanity.

2: Exploratory group discussions and interviews with the public - the key aim was to continue exploring attitudes to mind uploading. Secondary was to re-engage with pilot participants, increase the sample, and explore how best to present mind uploading. Engagement and exploration were achieved but a decision was made not to extend the sample but to refine the study approach to ensure future studies gained deeper insights into the hypothetical, futuristic concept. One group of three and one of four participants were convened and two depth interviews. Findings revealed both the positive and negative attributes of technology and confirmed that knowledge of mind uploading came almost exclusively from science fiction. As with the pilot, there were data privacy concerns, questions over who would have access to the upload and worries about fair and equitable access. Potential benefits were being able to preserve and access great minds for society and as an individual to avoid deterioration or and continue to be connected to loved ones. However the key learning was to confirm the challenges of working with a hypothetical concept, the lack of scientific knowledge and the need to explore and challenge existing beliefs. These learnings were all considered when planning subsequent research.

3: Expert e-Delphi study - this comprised three rounds of qualitative questions to allow for full exploration of complex concepts. The sample for round one was 15 experts which dropped to 12 in round two and nine in round three. Key findings included definitions of memory and mind and the relationship between them which proved to be both challenging and contentious. Several key themes were identified such as time and memory, the persistence of memory, time and technology, sense of self and personal identity, collective memory, truth vs falsehood, forgetting and Neuroethics or Neurorights. These learnings have informed my research with the public as well as providing context to my overall thesis.
Exploitation Route My thesis deals with a far future hypothetical scientific and technological advance. While the feasibility of Whole Brain Emulation (WBE) and the hypothetical advance of mind uploading is the subject of academic discussion, the perspectives tend to be neuroscientific or philosophical. To my knowledge, The Morality of Intelligent Machines group (University of Helsinki) are the only other academics researching this among the public. However concerns about privacy and protection of neural data, such as those raised by participants in my studies, has generated wider discussion and policy to ensure all human rights - including neuro-rights are protected and my research may contribute to this.

My industry partner - The Carboncopies Foundations comprises experts, academics, and volunteers from the public around the world and I am actively sharing the results of my research on this forum. As well as being a Board member, I am co-lead of the Ethics department, and we are currently drafting an ethical framework for WBE which is being informed by both the work of others and also my discussions with the public. The outcome may be shared with the wider academic community and the public.

I am also committed to sharing my research with the public more widely and am planning to present research highlights as part of the science public lecture series at the University of Nottingham later this year.
Sectors Communities and Social Services/Policy

Digital/Communication/Information Technologies (including Software)

Pharmaceuticals and Medical Biotechnology

Other

 
Description Large Impact Grant
Amount £11,400 (GBP)
Funding ID 2279195 
Organisation Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council (EPSRC) 
Sector Public
Country United Kingdom
Start 12/2023 
End 05/2024
 
Description Small Impact Grant
Amount £500 (GBP)
Funding ID 2279195 
Organisation Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council (EPSRC) 
Sector Public
Country United Kingdom
Start 12/2022 
End 02/2023
 
Description Article for The Conversation 
Form Of Engagement Activity Engagement focused website, blog or social media channel
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach International
Primary Audience Public/other audiences
Results and Impact Article on the science behind mind uploading. Approximately 60,000 read the article.
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2023
URL https://theconversation.com/how-uploading-our-minds-to-a-computer-might-become-possible-206804
 
Description Award Lecturer in Digital Innovation at the British Science Festival 2023 at the University of Exeter 
Form Of Engagement Activity A talk or presentation
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach International
Primary Audience Public/other audiences
Results and Impact An award lecture about digital innovation lasting up to 1 hour including questions from the audience. Approximately 114 attended and the British Science Association provided the following impact data.
• 91% of attendees felt your event was relevant to them
• 96% of attendees felt that your event increased their awareness of current research
• 93% of attendees were likely to recommend your event, or the BSF as a result of your event, to someone else
• 75% of attendees felt more inspired to get involved in science activity or projects after your event
• 96% of your audience enjoyed or very much enjoyed your event
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2023
 
Description Carboncopies - Research updates 
Form Of Engagement Activity A talk or presentation
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach International
Primary Audience Third sector organisations
Results and Impact I gave a presentation and answered questions on my research. The audience was mainly volunteers with Carboncopies who have an interest in the topic but the presentation gave them insight on public education and awareness.
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2021
 
Description Carboncopies Foundation Convention 
Form Of Engagement Activity A formal working group, expert panel or dialogue
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach International
Primary Audience Third sector organisations
Results and Impact The convention was an hybrid event (in person and online) focussing on The Carboncopies Foundation's work facilitating research into whole brain emulation. We launched a number of initiatives and departments. I contributed to both Research and Education activities including leading a brain storming session to generate key topics for an ethical framework for whole brain emulation. This is the start of an internal process but will subsequently involve collaboration and consultation with international experts.
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2023
 
Description Carboncopies Journal Club 
Form Of Engagement Activity A talk or presentation
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach International
Primary Audience Third sector organisations
Results and Impact I presented the results of an e-Delphi study among multi-disciplinary experts in fields related to whole brain emulation. It provoked a lot of discussion about the importance of creating a glossary for use on Carboncopies' website/engagement channels so that terms like memory and mind are clearly defined.
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2022
 
Description Creative Reactions (part of Pint of Science Nottingham) 
Form Of Engagement Activity Participation in an activity, workshop or similar
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach Local
Primary Audience Public/other audiences
Results and Impact Creative Reactions is an art-meets-science collaboration with local artists. I was paired with two composers/music makers who used my research as inspiration to create a piece of music. A visual artist also created visuals which were projected alongside the music. The event sold out and we received many compliments and questions about the topic which indicated increased awareness and engagement.
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2023
 
Description Digital Immortality would you Upload your Mind to a Computer 
Form Of Engagement Activity A press release, press conference or response to a media enquiry/interview
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach International
Primary Audience Public/other audiences
Results and Impact I was interviewed by a Senior Staff Writer at Dazed which resulted in an article entitled 'Digital Immortality would you Upload your Mind to a Computer'. As of July 2023, readership was 1.76 million
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2023
URL https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/60341/1/mind-uploading-key-to-eternal-life-or-terr...
 
Description Expert e-Delphi study 
Form Of Engagement Activity A talk or presentation
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach International
Primary Audience Third sector organisations
Results and Impact I presented the results of my research with multi-disciplinary experts and took part in a discussion.
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2022
 
Description How uploading our minds to a computer might become possible 
Form Of Engagement Activity A magazine, newsletter or online publication
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach International
Primary Audience Public/other audiences
Results and Impact Article for The Conversation. Approximately 60,000 read it.
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2023
URL https://theconversation.com/how-uploading-our-minds-to-a-computer-might-become-possible-206804
 
Description Interview on Notts TV 
Form Of Engagement Activity A press release, press conference or response to a media enquiry/interview
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach Regional
Primary Audience Public/other audiences
Results and Impact Interview on my research - 5 minute segment.
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2023
URL https://nottstv.com/programme/notts-today-tuesday-6th-june/
 
Description Nottingham Festival or Science and Curiosity 
Form Of Engagement Activity A magazine, newsletter or online publication
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach Regional
Primary Audience Schools
Results and Impact I placed a short article in the festival's newsletter to educate school children about the science behind mind uploading. I have no direct measure of impact.
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2021
URL https://nottsfosac.co.uk/2021-festival/festival-magazine/
 
Description Pint of Science Nottingham 
Form Of Engagement Activity A talk or presentation
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach Regional
Primary Audience Public/other audiences
Results and Impact The audience comprised approximately 50 people. I presented on my research into public awareness and attitudes towards mind uploading and a novel method of researching future scenarios - a storytelling website. We only had a limited time for questions but several were asked and the discussion continued during the break. Several members of the audience commented what a fascinating topic it was and the ethics in particular were of great interest. A few people were interested in learning more about the website and experiencing it for themselves.
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2023
 
Description Public Engagement with Storytelling Website 
Form Of Engagement Activity Engagement focused website, blog or social media channel
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach International
Primary Audience Public/other audiences
Results and Impact Designing and building a storytelling website - a novel and under researched methodology for the public to engage with and experience. 12 participants from the general public who have been collaborating with me since 2020 the piloted the website. The website was then launched to a further 43 people. The website provided knowledge exchange and learning and increased public awareness, understanding of and interest in mind uploading. After the website experience, 91% of the new participants (n=43) claimed to be more aware of mind uploading.
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2022,2023
URL https://sore-red-lamb-wear.cyclic.cloud/
 
Description Public Science Lecture at University of Nottingham 
Form Of Engagement Activity A talk or presentation
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach Regional
Primary Audience Public/other audiences
Results and Impact I gave a public science lecture at the University of Nottingham on October 20th 2022.
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2022
 
Description Segment on Notts TV 
Form Of Engagement Activity A press release, press conference or response to a media enquiry/interview
Part Of Official Scheme? No
Geographic Reach Regional
Primary Audience Public/other audiences
Results and Impact ??
Year(s) Of Engagement Activity 2023